Comments on: Victory has 100 Fathers and Defeat is an Orphan

By: christy

christy — Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:22:43 +0000

I was never mad, I laughed when I saw the banner, I knew it had to be some publicity stunt, and there is nothing wrong with that… The Price Tower and Doenges are both a part of our city history. I thought it was funny, I don’t know why so many people are so uptight, I realize a few people got hurt, which is sad, but it wasn’t Brads fault or the Price Towers fault that there were a bunch of greedy, careless people down there. I wish they had just let the kids get the balloons though, I think that would have been a better idea. Hey Brad, next time you need an idea for a marketing stunt, I have a few ideas, that no one could complain about… Anyway, so people all this whining and bickering back and forth, is it really going anywhere? People are still going to buy cars from Doenges, all your whining isn’t going to ruin them and it is so 3rd grade, give me a break. So what, it was a joke!!! Did you really want them to drop the 2.5 ton truck off the PRICE TOWER? Really????
I say “Nice publicity stunt Brad!” Looks like it worked. And I appreciate that it made people aware of the value of the Price Tower…
May God Bless us every one
Christy
No affiliation with Ford, Doenges or Price Tower

By: Apology Accepted

Apology Accepted — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:52:05 +0000

To “Prescott Scully” -

You reference to my email in the above post “Rbno-spam.com” is troubling. And, no this is not my “dog’s name” (I have no idea what that means?) If you are not an Admin on his site or associated with this blog, what technology did you use to view poster’s emails and why did you post mine? is that a way of threatening me?

You also reference my “sophmoric comments” like calling posters “jerk” “kooks” and “asses” (oh wait that was you, “Prescott Scully”). This blogs privacy policy assures me my info is safe, how did you get it?

To “Chris Murphy”

A post above makes the claim that”

“your first comment above was originally titled under a different posting name. Not exactly a deletion, but close. The comment was originally posted by “admin” with a gravatar picture of Brad Doenges. If you are an employee of Doenges as you initially implied with that comment, then it is even worse that they would allow such an employee to make these personal attacks against customers.”

Do you have a response?

If employees / agents of Doenges are posting and personally attacking critics of the dop, I wuld simply ask that they stop. I apologize for “not letting this go” and continuing to post. Mr. Doenges has accepted blame / recognized this was an awful idea and apologized…lets move on.

By: Chris Murphy

Chris Murphy — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:23:24 +0000

I can knock off two birds with one stone:

This is addressed to MEOWLICIOUS and CHRIS:

On http://www.bradyourcwarguy.com no one is Deleting Comments.

Please control your spin.

I cannot speak for the other social sites. But I’m a regular follower of this blog and nothing has been deleted. People, like you and me are permitted to post comments.

Unless you can prove that the other “Spin” is coming from the Doenges marketing people you would be better served to use the term “I speculate”

Here is emphatic proof that nothing has been deleted.

The accuser “Meow” has not focused on the facts and is creating unnecessary harmful spin.

Chris, “Mewo” sucked you in as well! Yep…sure did.

I guess now I will have to buy Chris a ticket to the moron-a-thon as well. Dang.

Now follow my story:

Post Comment #1 You signed in and left a comment on the Post Titled: : “What the Heck is Going on at Price Tower. The Doenges Ford F-150 Platinum Price Tower Promotion Recap”

You Signed as Meowlicious This is Post Comment #1 on July 14th at 8:38AM

Meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 8:38 am

Hey Mairking_uber_fail, just thought I would let you know what a hateful comment you made about the Moulder Motors guys…. remember the ones with the fun commercials that were entertaining and silly? They got our attention didn’t they? Well, you chose to ridicule them like the small-minded person you are… Want to know why they closed down? Wondering where they work now? Feel so much better than them right about now don’t you? Well Jiggity Jiggity Jake has cancer and he is unable to work and has been for quite some time. So… the guy is dying and you are making fun of him for it… Nice Job.
Brad, I think he best thing you could do about now is get rid of your marketing director who is so full of himself… and yes I know that because I have had dealings with him recently. Let him go work in another town and lick his wounds… possibly he will be the better for it.
You need to save face and have another shindig and feed everyone in town with a nice sandwich and a coke… I’m sure you will choose Dink’s because everyone else does and no one in this town ever thinks very hard… Then stand your rich butt out there all day long and admit to every single person you screwed up and your sorry. Give balloons to the kids, have a clown and some pony rides and be done with it.

Post Comment # 2 You signed in on “Victory has a 100 Fathers Defeat is an Orphan.”

Pay attention here “Meow” your second comment is on a different post than you first comment. Comments are listed separately by post.

They do not accumulate all on one post. Get it?

Post Comment # 2 Meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 11:37 am

Hey! They are taking off comments from earlier… they sure took mine off and others!
NOT COOL>

Post Comment # 3 you signed in on “Victory has a 100 Fathers Defeat is an Orphan.”

Pay attention here “Meow” your second and third comments are on a different post than you first comment.

Your First Comment is on “What the Heck is Going on at Price Tower. The Doenges Ford F-150 Platinum Price Tower Promotion Recap”

The comments do not accumulate all on one post. Get it?

Post Comment #3 meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 4:17 pm

Chris Murphy…. yes they are removing comments, because if they had left all the comments I had made right here, this would be number THREE!

Yep your right this would be post comment # 3. Two Comment Posts on “Victory” and one comment post on “What the Heck”

And they are all up on http://www.bradyyourcarguy.com. The only person removing anything is you. Take a deep breath and think this one through. Times-up! Do you get it?

Comment #1. Meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 8:38 am
Comment #2 Meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 11:37 am
Comment # 3 Meowlicious on July 14th, 2009 4:17 pm

OK now comment #4 would be your humble apology. And make sure to use the right words.

Thank You
Chris Murphy
Blog Observer

By: Chris

Chris — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:57:01 +0000

When I saw the apology it seemed quite sincere and I was ready to let the whole thing go. It isn’t often that you see a full and sincere apology from a business.

Now I see that they are still trying to spin it, just like they were doing over the weekend. Changing the apology, even a little bit shows that they don’t really mean it. I also can’t believe they are allowing some here to make personal attacks on others.

The promotion may have “worked”, but it was still a fiasco. It was a ill conceived idea that was poorly managed. It made tons of people mad and endangered people. People were promised something fun and entertaining if they came and they got something dull. By sheer freak accident my wife even got a balloon, but the whole thing was still dull and silly.

Worse than the fiasco at the Price Tower was the damage control that they tried to do. Rather than step up and accept responsibility, the Doenges marketing people tried to spin it. They shut down the social sites and deleted comments. Then they tried to claim that the response was wonderful. I have yet to actually meet a person who had anything positive to say about the fiasco at the Price Tower.

By: meowlicious

meowlicious — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:17:17 +0000

Chris Murphy…. yes they are removing comments, because if they had left all the comments I had made right here, this would be number THREE!

By: didyouhearthat?

didyouhearthat? — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:43:11 +0000

I’ll tell you why fiasco was changed to event. To define fiasco- a complete and ignominious failure. What failed the banner dropped successfully, it recieved MULTIPLE press spots, YOUR STILL TALKING ABOUT IT, some are laughing about it, they have sold vehicles since, 2,500 people were there to see it. I
can imagine there checklist now.
Elaborate plan with vague outcome. CHECK
Letting all of the local area hear of event. CHECK
Misleading events until reveal. CHECK
Order banner. CHECK
Large out come. CHECK
Succesfully drop banner. CHECK
Reveal the “AH-HA” moment. CHECK
Drop baloons hand out tshirts. CHECK
Mission succesful- hardly a fiasco to me.

Dosen’t sound fair to the people that sacrificed time, energy, money, and health, to call it a fiasco. Whether they intentionally dupped you or not they accomplished what they were set out to do.

By: Grabber69

Grabber69 — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:10:58 +0000

I think it’s funny that Apology Accepted thinks that anyone who doesnt agree with him must be part of a conspiracy… is it impossible for to think that people don’t agree with you or are you really as arrogant as you seem?

By: Dave_the_okie

Dave_the_okie — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:49:00 +0000

Apology Accepted, I got my marketing degrees (yes thats plural) here in the state. You yourself said they have apparently sold four trucks since the drop… that sounds like success to me if I were a dealer. They did get 70+ negative comments on EE, but they also received several (mine included) which weren’t published. This morning at breakfast, there were several people laughing at the Off The Cuffer’s (as usual). My point is, as someone else pointed out – they reached an audience of ALL of Northern Oklahoma with television audience who are impartial to the fact 2000 people stood out in the heat (and probably only 300 of them are pissed about it). Face it…ALL OF NORTHERN OKLAHOMA WAS LAUGHING AT YOU…and they CONTINUE laughing at the fact you’re upset about it. The rest of you pissed off folks that didnt go (and some of you dont even live here) are the same group that bitch when wind changes direction. You’d all be pissed if they did drop it over how your kids “could have been injured”…now your pissed because it was hot outside? And the “Blogosphere”? Give me a break. There were less than 10 people twittering about it… look it up. Folks like you and Meowolicious are why people make fun of Oklahoma.

By: Apology_Accepted

Apology_Accepted — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:02:07 +0000

umm, cowboys2233, I think your Caps Lock is STUCK You may want to have someone come over a take a look at that for you.

Um, Dave the Okie…I wish this Fiasco/Event even came close to Bruno/Borat/Punk’d: I think we would have called it a success. Thats the whole problem! Not to rehash, but we were promised something spectacular and got, well, nothing. A successful event wouldn’t have ticked people off enuff to post 70+ negative comments to the EE, several more to this blog, garnered nat’l negative attention in the blogosphere, or created a “Doenges Ford Sucks” Facebook group. It is a common misconseption that “there is no such thing as bad publicity” Thats only true if you are Larry Flynt or Madonna, NOT if you are a beloved family business with a long legacy of good works. So, Dave the Okie, where’d you get your degree in marketing?

This was simply a total failure to meet expectations which is always damaging to a business (if only reputation). Mr. Doenges seems to have recognized that, but it appears some of his supporters (maybe his marketing dept) have failed to recognize.

The original apology post this morning said, “I take full responsibility for the Price Tower fiasco.” The word “fiasco” was changed to “event” at some point. Why?

Frankly, I moved on after the original apology post, and now am just curious why he seems to be backtracking.

By: Chris Murphy

Chris Murphy — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:13:24 +0000

Hey Meowlicious:

Hey! They are taking off comments from earlier… they sure took mine off and others! NOT COOL>

You’re not cool!!!

You’re Dead Wrong and you owe the viewers an apology for staring a rumor. Meowlicious you are a Negative Wizard dieing to tarnish a man’s image. Stir the pot. Not necessary.

Nothing was taken down…you made a comment on two separate posts.

Your first post comment I believe was the : “What the Heck Happened at Price Tower etc.

Your second post comment was the “Victory Has a 100 Fathers and Defeat is an Orphan”

Nothing has been taken down.

I have purchased you a ticket to the moron-a-thon that is coming to town next week. Front row seats. You will have a blast